News Articles: November 2005

 

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GCVSP Manager's Response to Bishopton's Objection Letters

 

Mr Goodstadt, manager of the Glasgow and Clyde Valley Structure Plan, has written to every resident of Bishopton (2500+) who sent a letter of objection in the first round of consultation (June 2005). He wishes to elicit more comments on the proposals. The closing date for comments is 5 December 2005. Please send your comments Mr Vincent Goodstadt, 10 Killermont Street, Glasgow, G2 3NW. You are encouraged to have your say and as before BAG will lead from the front on this issue. Look out for our newsletter coming through your door within the next couple of weeks where we will provide the information you need.

 

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Bishopton Action Group Hits the Airwaves - 7 November 2005

 

At lunchtime on Monday 7 October a member of BAG had the opportunity to highlight the group's concerns on BBC Radio Scotland. The programme was discussing the proposed changes to the planning legislation and the right of third party appeal. Other speakers included representatives from the CBI and Friends of the Earth. During the day of the broadcast a lot of time had been devoted to the proposed changes to the anti-terrorist legislation and detention for 90 days. This limited the time available to discuss the planning legislation proposals. The BBC has indicated that it intends to return to the topic at a later date and BAG aim to be involved again. Watch this space for further updates.

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Bishopton Action Group on Q96 - 14 November 2005

 

Bishopton Action group was featured on Q96 news on 14 November. In the interview a BAG member urged Bishopton residents to make their views on the Structure Plan known and that they could make a difference. It was highlighted that the structure plan could be changed and that one major change regarding timetable of development at Bishopton had already taken place.

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Demonstration of an Explosive Process Building Being Decontaminated by Burning

 

An eyewitness account by BAG - Thursday 10th November 2005

 

Three members of BAG were invited by BAE to observe the decontamination of a typical explosives process building at the ROF site. The object of this exercise, as stated in the letter of invitation, was to "inform stakeholders in the Bishopton ROF Regeneration Scheme about the recognised methodology for this process". Those present included members of the Community Liaison Group, Community Council, SEPA, Forestry Commission, Redrow, Bob Darracott (Director of Planning), Jim Dewar and other Renfrewshire Council representatives, Graham Vincent (BAE), Dr Alison McKay (BAE) and various others.

 

It was a cold, blustery and showery day, but we were treated to tea and biscuits on our arrival. Graham Vincent and Alison McKay gave a short presentation on the history and use of the site. They explained that it comprises 986 hectares, and was used for the production of military gun and rocket propellant for nearly a century. Ball powder was manufactured and phosphorous filling was carried out also. The Georgetown factory was used for the filling and assembly of large calibre ammunition during Word War I.

 

The former buildings which dealt with explosives are now contaminated, as it was inevitable that dust would find its way into the cracks and crevices of buildings. Two methods of decontamination were described - water/steam jetting, and controlled burning - the latter being most effective. These are "tried and tested" methods accepted by the HSE explosives inspectorate. Dangerous materials (e.g. asbestos) are removed before the building is burned, weather conditions are constantly monitored, and appropriate authorities (including local residents) are notified in advance. After the fire, they check that the heat has penetrated all areas of the building, and undertake the safe crushing of building materials. It was explained that BAE have a "proven track record" of decontaminating buildings e.g. Chorley (over 400), Waltham Abbey etc. There is a 150 metre safety zone and no-one is allowed within this area, other than the people doing the actual "burn".

 

After the presentation, we were minibused approximately half a mile to the centre of the site We were struck by the large numbers of brick buildings dotted all over the site. There are also many grass covered, reinforced concrete underground storage chambers (these will take some shifting!). Graham Vincent informed us that there are more than 1,000 contaminated buildings on the site. The building used for the presentation is a basic brick construction with a concrete roof. This is typical of the majority of buildings on the site, and the only means of creating a fire within such a building is to fill it with straw and timber as fuel.

 

Our observation party was located some 300/400 metres from the building to be used for the demonstration. Three straw channels were lit simultaneously to feed fire from outside to the inside of the building. We were warned that, in the event of a "problem", we would be asked to move quickly to hide behind an adjacent building. We observed the building burning for some 20-25 minutes and were advised that temperatures of 750 degrees, then 1000 degrees were achieved. At first, black smoke emitted (as we had been told to expect) for about 5 minutes and then more acceptable grey smoke continued. At one point, after approximately 15 minutes, slightly alarming-looking greenish smoke belched horizontally through windows, but this lasted for only a few minutes. Graham Vincent advised that "this would be investigated". The building had large aluminium cowlings and horizontal ventilation funnels on the roof. We remarked that fire did not pass through these units and were advised that they would "probably have to be dealt with separately".

 

We asked how they would deal with the buildings known to be contaminated and situated adjacent to Bishopton housing - would it be the same method as demonstrated today? The answer was that neither of the two methods described earlier (water/steam jetting or controlled burning) was suitable, and the rather vague suggestion was that there would probably be some type of "controlled demolition" and removal for burning to another part of the site. Graham Vincent acknowledged that they were not too sure about this, but they know that this is a "contentious" issue. They will deal with each building on an individual basis, and they have a record of every building on the site and what it was used for. We also asked about the danger from the smoke particles-the answer given was that the materials are broken down into their constituent parts by burning, and that there is no more danger than "smoke from a bonfire".

 

As far as the explosive ingredients are concerned, this is probably true. However, we know that many of the propellant mixes contained additional chemicals such as fluoride or lead. These could be carried off in the smoke and would still present a potential hazard. We felt that the above statement was simplistic, Later we also considered the fact that the fire has presumably to reach the specified temperatures in order to render the contaminants "safe".

 

As a whole, the demonstration - the potential risk of fluoride, lead or other contaminants blowing in the wind, and the general vagueness of how they propose to deal with the buildings situated close to the local community - did not reassure us.

 

We left the site feeling rather dejected about the process of site contamination in the hands of these "experts". Let's hope that they can provide better answers to our fears and concerns before they are allowed to start to treat the remaining 1000+ contaminated buildings.

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Make Your Voice Heard 17/11/05

 

This week volunteers, loyal to the BAG cause, descend on the village to elicit a final response to the 2nd round of consultation on the Structure Plan Alteration. If Mr Goodstadt and his Structure Plan team do not get the message this time that Bishopton wishes to remain a village then surely the whole consultation process amounts to pure "lip service"? Like it or not, we are fighting hard to maintain what is precious to us. BAG is in the thick of it, and your letters reinforce and enable us to carry on.

 

To all our volunteers... A great big thank you for all your hard work. We could not succeed without you.

 

To all Bishopton residents...Bishopton has a made a big impact so far. Let's make an even bigger impact this time. So please sign the objection letters that will be dropping through your door. The Officials say that they are listening. Tell them what you think of their plans. There is room on the objection letter for you to add your own personal comments. Make your voice heard!

 

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BAG Hits The Headlines 23/11/05

 

Bishopton is certainly making the news these days. Last week we were mentioned in the Greenock Telegraph. On Sunday we were mentioned in the Sunday Herald. On Monday we made into the Evening Times and this week we have made front page news on the Extra. Bishopton's fight is turning into something of a cause celebre.

 

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ROF DEVELOPMENT IS NOT YET A CERTAINTY 24/11/05

 

At a recent "Planning for People Workshop" organised by Planning Aid for Scotland, one of the speakers was Crawford Russell, Head of Planning for Renfrewshire Council. Some of the points made about the ROF site were:

        • It is an area of heavy contamination
        • It is a very controversial proposal
        • The planning process will tease out how and whether it should go ahead
        • It is going through the Structure Plan process to clarify its strategic importance at present
        • The development is mentioned in the local plan but it is not yet a certainty that it will happen

 

It was also mentioned that if the contamination and remediation issues were not properly dealt with, outline planning permission would not be given.

 

So don't think that the development is a foregone conclusion-far from it, you can still influence the planning process, both now and at the Scottish Executive level, BEFORE IT GETS TO THE LOCAL PLAN STAGE.

 

NO REQUIREMENT FOR A NEW SECONDARY SCHOOL?

 

At the above-mentioned workshop, Mr. Russell, Head of Planning for Renfrewshire Council was repeatedly asked to confirm that there are NO PLANS to build a new secondary school in our area. He replied: "I doubt that there would be a requirement for a new secondary school". He commented that the developer would be paying £1million towards the cost of educational facilities. Given that the cost of a new school can be upwards of £15m, you could argue that this is a drop in the ocean. So what will happen when Park Mains is full? Will Bishopton pupils of secondary school age be transported out to other areas?

 

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Discussion Forum 25/11/05

 

We have modified the BAG website so that you can now access the BAE Housing Development section of the Bishopton Discussion Forum. We hope that this will give you the opportunity to voice your opinions, raise your concerns and exchange ideas about the proposed BAe development.

 

To get to the Forum, click on the Forum menu option near the top of the screen.

 

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Redrow Feels the Squeeze 27/11/05

 

Is Bishopton being sacrificed to boost Redrow's profits? Can Bishopton really rely on them to provide new schools, health centre and all the other infrastructure, when profits are their main goal?

 

Make up your own mind. Read the following article from Business Online: Click here

 

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Objection Letter Collection - 29/11/05 

 

We have had rain, snow and biting cold winds, but despite this the BAG volunteers were still out on the streets, knocking on doors and collecting the objection letters. Their dedication is fantastic and much appreciated by the village. Some villagers showed their appreciation by inviting the volunteers in for a warming cup of tea or even a dram. A big thank you to all of the volunteers and a big thank you to the children who decided to give Mum or Dad a hand to deliver/collect letters.

 

NB All objection letters must be received by Monday, 5 December 2005

 

If you have been out when the volunteer called and wish to object, please post your completed objection letter to:

 

Up until Thursday 1 Dec 2005

 

Secretary

Bishopton Action Group

c/o Kilallan

Sachelcourt Avenue

Bishopton

PA7 5AA

 

After Thursday 1 Dec 2005

 

Structure Plan Manager

10 Killermont Street

Glasgow

G2 3NW

 

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